Minutes
of the meeting of Crich Parish Council
Monday 8th. January 2007 in the Glebe Field Centre
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Present: Cllr. Lane (Chair), Cllr. Brierton (vice Chair), Cllrs. Bendon,
Harris,
Harwood, Salt, Steppings, Tromans, Whitney, Cty.Cllr. Jackson + 3
members of the public. Clerk in attendance.
Apologies: Cllrs. Goodhead, Smith, Thorpe
07/001Public participation – no comments
07/002 Police matters (PC 2024 Lowe) in attendance
Police are aware of theft of and damage to cars in the vicinity of the
Kings Arms. A man is in custody and may well be responsible for these
and other offences.
Cllr. Harris reminded the meeting that the reason for low police
presence in Crich is the low incidence of reported crime, he felt
strongly that everyone in the community should see the reporting of all
crimes to the police as a duty not an option.
07/003 Minutes of the meeting of 4 December 2006
Resolved that these be signed by the Chair
07/004 Matters arising from the Minutes
Chair cannot attend the Belper Town Council Civic service. No one else
was available to go in her place.
Cllr. Bendon questioned Mr. Coultas’s attendance at a quarry liaison
meeting, Cty Cllr. Jackson explained that MC accompanied him and that he
was quite happy with that.
Cllr Bendon also asked about the cost of lighting for the build out on
the Market Place (this is dealt with later)
07/005 Declarations of interest – None
07/006 Local Authority Councillors
Cty Cllr Jackson reported on the following:-
He is acutely aware of the horrendous parking problems in Fritchley and
has asked the police at Alfreton to send a uniformed officer to tour the
village with him in order to get first hand experience of the situation
The handrail situation is a matter for the County Council and is being
monitored
At the Crich Quarry Liaison Committee meeting a verbal agreement was
made with the Deputy Managing Director of Aggregate Industries that the
movement of lorries be stopped for 30 minutes around the times children
are arriving at and leaving school. He is awaiting a response to a
request to make this a formal written agreement with drivers.
The County Council seems to be rather dismissive of the need to repair
rural roads until the holes are really deep. He will raise his concerns
at a full council meeting
Cty Cllr Jackson reminded the Council of the need to lobby about speed
limits on rural and quiet roads in the parish
‘Fridge magnets reminding us of the “Call Derbyshire “ system were
distributed. This is a useful and increasingly used service in the
county
Funding for street lighting follows reported incidences of anti-social
behaviour. A new £13,000 scheme in Chesterfield is evidence of this.
07/007 Clerks Report
Black spot lighting = we await written estimates from DCC but following
a site meeting with Chris Green on 22.12.06 it was possible to report
that:-
Lighting on the market Place build- out would cost about £2,500 to
comply with regulation re. lighting of a road crossing
The lighting on New Rd. in general is a concern and we should pursue the
possibility of an upgrade
The siting of a light at Bowmer Lane will involve either an attachment
to the existing telegraph pole or a new light situated on the pavement
at the boundary between the bungalows
Putting a light at Greenfields would certainly be of value but would be
very expensive as the power supply is not handy and there is no pavement
n.b. cabling costs £100 per metre in the road and £50 per meter in the
footway.
A new light on The Common opposite the footpath would be expensive in
that it would be on the opposite side of the road and would require
23meters of trenching to supply the power
Installation of a light on Roes Lane seems desirable and feasible, a
resident offered to have the light attached to his property! The issue
of whether the builder of the new houses should have provided a light
was raised and a letter will be sent to him to this effect. ( We believe
this to be an R Geeson company)
Caretakers pay: He is currently paid £ 5.00 per hour. Since October 1st.
this should have been £5.35 per hour to comply with minimum wage
legislation. It was resolved to pay the new rate back-dated to October
1st 2006
Crich Quarry Matters
Cllr Bendon has collected a good deal of information in the form of
letters, ROMP documents, plans, diagrams, telephone conversations,
planning permissions etc. He explained that much of the information the
council may seek about future plans the quarry companies may have are
commercially sensitive and therefore hard to obtain. The company can use
the quarry until 2042 and can effectively extract without limit
vertically (actual limitations would be a. physical shape of the hole b.
commercial viability). In theory they may work as quickly or as slowly
as they like e.g. exhausting the deposits in 3 years or in 30 years.
However, they would need further permissions to expand laterally and the
Parish Council is resolved to resist this. County Council policy is not
to give further permissions in Derbyshire.
Cty Cllr. Jackson reported that he had information suggesting that
further vertical extraction would be limited by clay deposits. The next
liaison meeting is on 25th. April 2007 and it was thought sensible to
invite a council officer to a Parish Council meeting after that.
Cllr. Harris felt very strongly that the Parish Council should resist
the granting of any permission for lateral expansion. It was agreed that
this become Parish Council policy.
Mr. Pegg (member of the public) brought a copy of a letter sent to the
County Council expressing concerns about the Crich Quarry on behalf of
the residents of Wakebridge.
Cllr. Harris enquired why the footpath around the quarry (FP15) was
technically ‘closed’ The barriers are no longer obvious, the path is
well used by walkers and does not seem to be dangerous. Cty. Cllr
Jackson explained that such decisions were made on geological evidence
and that he would report the problem. Cllr. Bendon added that the path
is in places less than 8 metres from the quarry edge this is deemed to
be unacceptable.
Christmas Tree
There had been problems with the transformer which was replaced and with
some vandalism. The lighting was working in time for the carol service
and continued to work over the Christmas period
Grass Track
The company has had to increase charges for the next year of its
contract from £ 3,450.00 to £3,726.00 + vat per year. This was seen as
acceptable and favourable comments were made about the quality of their
work.
Picture donation for office
The Council expressed thanks to Michael Coultas for his generous
donation of 2 paintings of local scenes
Speed limit proposals
Cllrs. Lane, Harris, Steppings and Tromans submitted written proposals
suggesting speed limits at various locations viz: The Common, Dimple
Lane, Market, Wheatcroft Lane, Dark Lane , Potters Lane and Pit Lane.
Mr. Pegg submitted a copy of a letter he had written regarding the road
between Wakebridge and Crich. It was resolved that the clerk should send
these suggestions to Cty. Cllr. Lucas (Cabinet Member) and that a letter
in support of Mr. Pegg’s letter be sent with a copy to Cty. Cllr.
Jackson.
There was a good deal of agreement on the effectiveness of large 30 mph
signs painted in the road and interest was expressed in the deployment
of “Speed activated signs”.
Cllr Steppings suggested a meeting with DCC to discuss all issues
concerning roads. Chair suggested that the Transport Committee should
meet to discuss these matters and to put in a written request for a
meeting with the County Council. It was pointed out that it would be
helpful if the Clerk were informed of minor road accidents i.e. those
not reported to the police, as these have a bearing on the attitude to
highway matters.
The issue of the way Sat Nav systems can misdirect motorists on to rural
roads was raised. There have been a number of instances of this in the
parish. It was pointed out that the police have the authority to deal
with such matters when they are identified and reported.
Stonewall repair at FP 64
Payment of £800 for this work was approved
Website
Chair reported that she is in negotiation over this and will report
back.
Grit bins
8 of the 9 bins have been filled as requested ( the 9th. was not
accessible!) AVBC has had a problem sourcing new bins but this is now
hopefully resolved
07/008 Planning decisions
2006/0644 The Cottage ,Sun Lane (Harrison) demolition of garage and
formation of new access drive. To go to APPEAL
GRANTED 2006/1237 Nuncott The Dimple, Fritchley (Perry) ext. to rear.
GRANTED 2006/2266 37 Coast Hill, (Daniels) fencing to NW of property
REFUSED 2006/1272 Land at Sandy Lane (Markeaton Construction) erection
of new dwelling
GRANTED 2006/1365 Allen Lane, (Fritchley School) non-illuminated sign
07/009 Planning Applications
2006/1437 Land at The Yews, The Common, Crich.( Jerram): outline for
detached dwelling. Objection. ‘Crich Parish Council strongly objects for
the same reasons leading to the refusal of application 2005/1102. There
are serious concerns about access, number of vehicles and size of
proposed building which is not in-keeping with surrounding properties.
There is a strong case for a site meeting’. In addition to the formal
response to the Planning dept . a letter will be sent to Cllr.
Hartshorne.
2006/1448 Old surgery, Dimple Lane (Lonsdale): new stone chimney.’No
objections’
2006/1487 31,Coast Hill Crich (Beresford) 2 storey extension + utility
room. (No objections)
2006/1498 Land adjacent to Greenacres, Chadwick Nick Lane, Fritchley
(Walker) :erection of building + attached garage. ‘No objections’
20061512 7, Cromford Rd., Crich (Lucas) removal of highway wall and
associated works ‘No objections’ However Council recorded concern over
the importance of protecting the footpath and of not building the wall
to such a height that it interferes with sight lines.
2006/1524 Coddington Hall Farm, Whatstandwell (Chambers/Hawksley)
demolition of redundant farm buildings + conversion of stone barn to 2
residential units + garage block. Objection: According to the Adopted
Amber Valley Local Plan 2006 policy H3 allows development subject to
conditions within the built frame work of certain urban areas and
villages such as Whatstandwell.This site not within the built frame work
and is therefore not permitted. There is no indication that the
application meets the condition that the new development is’… necessary
for the operation of a rural based activity and where a rural location
is essential’ No use for the dwelling has been specified and Crich
Parish Council opposes the application.
2006/1533 Stones Lane (Orange/O2) telecommunications mast. ‘No
objections’ However, comment was made as to whether this mast could be
located adjacent to an existing one and whether this type of mast could
be disguised.
2000/01 4, Glen Rd. Whatstandwell. Proposed 2 storey side extension –
kitchen, dining and bedroom extension. ‘No objections’
07/010 Donations
The following recommendations made by the finance committee were
confirmed by the Council :-
Crich and Neighbourhood Community Care Scheme £225
Crich Junior School None
Fritchley Christmas Tree £150
Fritchley OAP Association £100
Fritchley Primary School Governors Account £90
Mid Derbyshire citizens Advice Bureau None – no longer at the Glebe
Victim Support Derbyshire (AV and Erewash) None
Whatstandwell Social club £100
Glebe Field Trust (special item) £525 monthly from 1 Feb. 2007
Sims Charity-
This was the subject of a long discussion as there was some concern that
the Parish Councils appear to be the sole source of income for this
charity which without the Parish councils support is effectively
defunct..
Cllr. Salt supported payment on historical grounds
Cllr. Harris believed that it is not a proper use of local tax-payers
money and that the church should fund the charity
Chair and Cllr. Whitney both felt it inappropriate for the Parish
Council to fund this charity
Cllr. Salt proposed and Cllr. Brierton seconded a motion that the
Charity should be funded according to their request (£740 to cover a 2
year period)
This motion was defeated by 5 votes to 4.
Cllr. Harris remarked on the limited information provided to the Council
by the Sims charity compared with other groups who provided bank
statements, financial records, detailed costings and fund raising
activities. The Sims Charity gives no indication of efforts made on its
own account – this he thought was not a satisfactory basis on which to
allocate tax payers money
Cllr. Whitney reminded the Council that the Sims Charity must have been
aware that some doubt was cast on the appropriateness of the council
contribution 2 years ago but still they do not seem to have made an
effort to seek funds from other sources.
Cllr. Harris suggested that we offer £200 to cover the next 2 year
period, this would be in line with other donations and would perhaps
encourage the Sims Charity to seek alternative funding.
Cllr. Bendon Proposed and Cllr. Salt seconded a motion that The Sims
Charity be given £200 for the next 2 year period. Provided the Church
can raise the balance of £540.00 from other sources.
This was carried FOR 4 AGAINST 2 ABSTENTIONS 3.
The full Council considered the following late applications:-
Crich Rangers FC £100
Crich Brass Band £150
07/011 Precept
This was agreed and signed by Chair in the sum of £36,200.
7/012 Accounts
Balances at 10th December Current £27423.20 Jubilee £945.50 Charity £120
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Audit Commission has approved accounts for last Financial Year
Income
Yorkshire Bank Current Acc. Interest (30.11) £45.96
A. Bolstridge re burial (20.12) £40.00
Thos Greatorex re. burial (20.12) £120.00
Archway Funeral Services re burial (20.12) £120.00
Midlands C S Funeral services re. burial (4.1) £30.00
Expenditure
M D A Coultas re Clerks salary for Dec. + exp. £4.07 081 £179.70
C. Ludlam re Clerks salary for Dec. 082 £313.84
M.MacArthur re BG/PG caretaking for Dec. 083 £108.33
Grass Track re. Dec maintenance 084 £337.81
Wilds Garden Design re stonewall repair FP 64 085 £800.00
BT re. office phone 086 £99.39
Viking Direct re. Printer ink 087 £109.44
Parkwood social Fund 2 FP 58 clearance 088 £50.00
S. Fantom re. various repairs 089 £121.90
The Post Office (for Inl. Rev.) re NIC+tax Q3 090 £98.00
Derwent Waste Management 091 £76.30
07/013 Circulars and Publications
AVBC minutes submitted on 20.12.2006
AVBC Planning Board Minutes 4 and 18 December 2006
DCC Draft Rights of Way Improvement Plan 2006-11
Derwent Valley WHS management plan (revised)
East Midlands Airport Master Plan Summary
07/013 Information
Cllr. Brierton expressed concern about the condition of the shed at the
BG. The provision of a new shed and a strimmer to be discussed at the
next meeting.
(There is an asbestos issue with the disposal of the old shed) He also
requested that the provision of CCTV on the Market Place be discussed at
the next meeting
Cllr. Harwood reported a faulty light on Dowie Way and 2 cars which
appear to be abandoned on Sun Lane. These to be reported to the Police.
Chair thanked Councillors and members of the public for their attendance
and the meeting closed at 10.25 pm
Clive Ludlam , Clerk 10.01.2007
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